AGI? Vitalik and Emad seem sceptical of AGI happening soon. Can they articulate their reasons? Also what is Grimes' view on this?

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AGI? Vitalik and Emad seem sceptical of AGI happening soon. Can they articulate their reasons? Also what is Grimes’ view on this?